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Disorder

Gone are the days of coherent international coordination. Rather than working together to solve pressing crises, many of the world’s most powerful states are actively making those crises worse. The result? We’re living through a novel historical era: The Global Enduring Disorder. The Disorder podcast teases out the key principles that connect seemingly disparate challenges: from Climate Change to Tax Havens, to Unregulated Cyberspace, to the Wars in Ukraine, Syria, and Libya. Jason Pack, NATO Foundation Senior Analyst, and Alexandra Hall Hall, a former British Ambassador, discuss with world-leading experts, senior diplomats and cultural icons, the fundamental principles lurkin...

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Recent Episodes of Disorder


Ep47. Has the essence of Warfare changed?

Ep47. Has the essence of Warfare changed?

Renowned Israeli Military historian Martin Van Creveld explains to Disorder listeners how certain essential elements of warfare have remained constant overtime. These continuities have been frequently overlooked in the sensationalizing media coverage of the wars in Gaza and Ukraine. 

 

In major interstate warfare, the defense retains its traditional advantages just as it did when Carl von Clausewitz penned his famous ‘On War’; in counter insurgency warfare separating insurgents from the shelter they receive from the local population remains as complex as when Mao Tze Dong wrote his ‘On Guerrilla Warfare’; and maintaining deterrence vis a vis one’s...

Episode 47 20 June 2024 34m and 47s


Ep46. Is a truly progressive foreign policy compatible with Ordering the Disorder?

Ep46. Is a truly progressive foreign policy compatible with Ordering the Disorder?

Heretofore, this podcast has largely examined the blame that neo-liberals, neo-conservatives, and neo-populists on the Right bear in causing our era of global enduring disorder. Now is the turn to set our crosshairs on the disorder that comes from the ideas of the Left. Recent events reveal that the Left lacks a coherent vision of the global economy, of global institutions, and possibly of the objectives of Western foreign policy in general. To be intellectually honest, we must ask is the progressive Left as guilty as the neo-populist Right in disordering the globe?  

 

These days, man...

Episode 46 18 June 2024 51m and 28s


Ep45. Part 2: Is Britain in the Moral Superiority Industry?

Ep45. Part 2: Is Britain in the Moral Superiority Industry?

The sordid tale of Tory mega donor, Mohamed Amersi, and his libel suit against Charlotte Leslie was an attempt to turn money into control over the truth. To our mind, there is no greater example of how the underlying principles of our era of Global Enduring Disorder connect bribery in Kazakhstan and Kathmandu to Brexit, the Ukraine war, and shadowy consultancies which offer pay-for-play access to the British elite.  

 

In part 2 of Jason’s conversation with Tom Burgis, the duo talk about some of the biggest corruption cases in British history, how the complex story of po...

Episode 45 11 June 2024 58m and 32s


Ep44. Part 1: Are Corruption and Kleptocracy at the very heart of the Enduring Disorder?

Ep44. Part 1: Are Corruption and Kleptocracy at the very heart of the Enduring Disorder?

Corruption, in one form or another, is as old as civilization. As long as there have been governmental authorities, private businesspeople have found ways to bribe them to get preferential deals. So, what is different about corruption in our era of Global Enduring Disorder? 

 

To find out, Jason Pack is joined by Tom Burgis -- award winning investigative journalist, and author of Cuckooland: Where the Rich Own the Truth. In this episode (Part 1 of 2), the duo discuss how laws and decisions in the City of London and Washington, DC actually enable kleptocratic behaviour in places li...

Episode 44 4 June 2024 1h, 30s


Ep43. Are we having enough babies? And listeners questions

Ep43. Are we having enough babies? And listeners questions

At the end of the 20th century many world governments sought to lower birth rates – e.g. China’s One Child Policy – but now in 2024… most major world governments are focussed on bringing fertility rates up. In fact, nearly all of the developed world is facing a declining and aging population. Hence, for the first time in human history a majority of the globe’s population now lives under governments with a stated intent to influence childbearing. 

 

So why do so many governments seem obsessed with national fertility rates? Should they be in the business of encouragi...

Episode 43 28 May 2024 1h, 2m and 45s


Ep42. Britain's True Independence (from Neopopulists) Day

Ep42. Britain's True Independence (from Neopopulists) Day

Jason is so so so excited he just just just can’t hide it. He sees the hand of a providential mega orderer at work with the UK going to a general election on July 4th. He doesn’t understand why his British friends poopoo his man crush on Starmer, because he sees Sir Keir as truly messianic in his non-messianic-ness and as a better, younger, more competent version of Biden.  

 

To get a native-born insider’s view on the election, Jason is joined by his Scottish doppelganger (Jane Kinninmont) to discuss what the election could mea...

Episode 42 25 May 2024 1h, 3m and 45s


Ep41. Iran’s Disorderer-in-Chief Dies; and as Russia Advances, Is Kharkiv at risk of being turned into Mariupol?

Ep41. Iran’s Disorderer-in-Chief Dies; and as Russia Advances, Is Kharkiv at risk of being turned into Mariupol?

The sun is shining, the flowers are in bloom, there is a dense fog over the Iranian-Azeri border, what time does that make it? Russo-Ukrainian Summer Offensive Time!  

 

This episode starts with a short emergency-cast about the crash of the Iranian President’s helicopter due to fog. Jason briefly investigates if the death of this ‘disorderer-in-chief’ is likely to bring any more order to the Middle East region, before rejoining our regularly scheduled programming about Ukraine. 

 

Over the last two weeks, Russia has been gaining territory in Ukraine’s northeast, while the shelling...

Episode 41 21 May 2024 1h, 11m and 48s


Ep40. What’s next for Georgia and its 'foreign agent’ law?

Ep40. What’s next for Georgia and its 'foreign agent’ law?

Earlier this week, Georgia passed its controversial ‘foreign agent’ law.


Under the bill, NGOs and independent media that receive more than 20% of their funding from foreign donors would have to register as organisations "bearing the interests of a foreign power”. The law has been met with mass protests across the country.


So what does the passing of this bill mean for Georgia’s hope to become an EU and NATO member? What could it mean for the countries elections later this year? And how should the West respond?


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Episode 40 16 May 2024 45m and 38s


Ep39. What Role, if any, is there for Empathy in Ordering the Disorder?

Ep39. What Role, if any, is there for Empathy in Ordering the Disorder?

Part of the Enduring Disorder is our increasingly divided and partisan narratives. Trump vs. Biden, Leavers against Remainers, Palestinians and Israelis. Many of today’s political actors appear unable to understand and empathise with their opponent’s points of view. Why? Potential because social media, cancel culture, and increased partisanship seems to have actually decreased people’s ability to feel empathy or to desire it from their politicians.  

 

But should all our politicians just be more empathetic? Actually electorally that might not work.  Do Democrats actually want to see Biden empathise with Speaker Johnson blocking aid to Ukr...

Episode 39 14 May 2024 40m and 29s


Ep38. Could Germany and South Korea go nuclear?

Ep38. Could Germany and South Korea go nuclear?

Putin’s nuclear threats over Ukraine and the constant potential of an Iranian/Israeli escalation have brought concerns over nuclear proliferation back up the geopolitical agenda. Western-aligned Asian countries – like South Korea and Saudi Arabia – have begun talking openly about whether they might need their own nukes. Meanwhile, even Germany – one of the most avowedly anti-nuclear countries in Europe – is now having a new debate about whether there should be a “Eurobomb”. 

 

All these countries American allies are thinking of nuclearizing as they have a growing fear that they might not be able to rely on the US if the...

Episode 38 7 May 2024 53m and 8s

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