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Design Better

Design Better co-hosts Eli Woolery and Aarron Walter explore the intersection of design, technology, and the creative process through conversations with inspiring guests across many creative fields. Whether you’re design curious or a design pro, Design Better is guaranteed to inspire and inform. Episodes are released semi-weekly. Vanity Fair calls Design Better, “sharp, to the point, and full of incredibly valuable information for anyone looking to better understand how to build a more innovative world.”

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Recent Episodes of Design Better


Roger Horrocks: My Octopus Teacher's cinematographer on shaping story and cultivating patience

Roger Horrocks: My Octopus Teacher's cinematographer on shaping story and cultivating patience

Over the years, Eli spent a lot of time diving and doing photography—from designing underwater photography equipment, to running an underwater photography magazine in the early 2000’s, to doing research work using towed underwater camera systems. And both he and Aarron have a huge amount of respect and admiration for folks that are at the top of their craft. After watching the Academy-award winning documentary My Octopus Teacher, both of us knew that we needed to learn more about the cinematographer Roger Horrocks

Visit our Susbtack for the full episode, transcript, and other bonus content: https://desi...

Episode 105 23 July 2024 16m and 28s


Steve Portigal: The art of interviewing users

Steve Portigal: The art of interviewing users

There’s an art to interviewing customers. It’s so much harder than just asking a few people some questions. If we’re not careful, bias can throw off our findings. And sometimes the most salient information that may inform the next generation of your products can slip by even the most seasoned researchers. Few people have mastered interviewing users as well as our guest today—author and independent research practitioner Steve Portigal.

Steve’s just released a second edition to his popular book, Interviewing Users, that expands upon the principles and techniques introduced in the first edition, an...

Episode 104 16 July 2024 58m and 47s


Dan Mall: Scaling design systems

Dan Mall: Scaling design systems

There’s a reason why we’ve been talking about design systems for a number of years now—it’s the key to collaboration at scale. Few people get that more than Dan Mall who has helped the world’s most recognizable brands create design practices that are truly sustainable and successful.

We spoke to Dan about his new book, Design That Scales, which dives into how to create, manage, and sustain a successful design system. And he shares where the people involved in a design system fit and how they can best collaborate. 

In case you mis...

Episode 102 9 July 2024 15m and 43s


Rewind: Sara Seager: Astrophysicist pushing the boundaries of collaboration while discovering exoplanets

Rewind: Sara Seager: Astrophysicist pushing the boundaries of collaboration while discovering exoplanets

Find full show notes, bonus content and more on our Substack: https://designbetterpodcast.com/p/rewind-sara-seager

It’s a holiday week—happy 4th of July to those celebrating it 🎆—so we’re rewinding to one of our favorite episodes. NASA has been making a lot of headlines with the discovery of planets outside of our solar system that may harbor life, and our guest, Sara Seager, is a big part of these pioneering projects.

While we have you here, make sure to check out some of our upcoming workshops and a Design Better happy hour in August, in...

Episode 3 July 2024 39m and 4s


Carissa Carter and Scott Doorley: Assembling Tomorrow

Carissa Carter and Scott Doorley: Assembling Tomorrow

Find show notes, transcripts, and bonus content on our Substack: https://designbetterpodcast.com/p/carissa-carter-scott-doorley

Most of us are too busy with the present to think far into the future—work, kids, pets and other obligations can make it feel like planning for anything more than a week away is a fool’s errand.

But we also live in a time of rapid change, where technologies from biological design to artificial intelligence threaten to mold the future in ways we might have trouble imagining. So it’s comforting to know that we have bright, creative minds...

Episode 102 25 June 2024 51m and 32s


Celene Aubry: 100+ years of designing for legendary musicians at Hatch Show Print

Celene Aubry: 100+ years of designing for legendary musicians at Hatch Show Print

Get access to the full episode on our Substack: https://designbetterpodcast.com/p/celene-aubry

Back in 2010, Aarron visited Hatch Show Print, a small print shop with a storied history that began in 1879. Hand cut wood block type and illustrations filled the shelves around presses busy producing posters for famous bands and artists. Johnny Cash, Dolly Parton, Bob Dylan, Elvis Presley, and so many other legendary folks have used Hatch Show Print to promote their tours, and their aesthetic has been a major influence on design for more than 100 years. They’re still producing beautiful print work today an...

Episode 101 18 June 2024 18m and 4s


Special Episode: "Say More" Feed Drop from The Boston Globe with guest Cal Newport

Special Episode: "Say More" Feed Drop from The Boston Globe with guest Cal Newport

Hey, everybody. We're sharing something special today from our pals over at the Say More podcast, where in a special series, Boston Globe columnist Shirley Leung is opening up the conversation about stress and burnout to help listeners feel less alone and inspired to get help. She connects with experts like Krista Tippett and Emily Nagoski, who use medical science, social science, and philosophy to answer deep questions about how stress works on our bodies and our minds so we can work better and live better.

In this episode that we're sharing with you, computer scientist and...

Episode 14 June 2024 27m and 44s


Hillary Coe: Emmy Award-winning designer, certified commercial pilot, astronaut candidate, and drag-racing record holder on designing for SpaceX and Vast

Hillary Coe: Emmy Award-winning designer, certified commercial pilot, astronaut candidate, and drag-racing record holder on designing for SpaceX and Vast

Visit our Substack for a video of the live interview, transcript, and more: https://designbetterpodcast.com/p/hillary-coe

This is our 100th episode of Design Better. 🥳 It’s an amazing milestone! Whether you’ve been with us for years or you’re brand new to the show, thanks for listening and supporting our work.

We saved something very special for our 100th episode: a live episode with Hillary Coe, formerly a design leader at SpaceX who is now leading design at Vast, who are building commercial space stations.

When we first learned about Hillary...

Episode 100 11 June 2024 1h, 3m and 22s


Bonus: AI and the Creative Process

Bonus: AI and the Creative Process

Generative AI is finding its way into the tools and processes that power creative work. Exciting? Terrifying? Maybe a little of both. Adobe has been not only shipping impressive generative AI tools and features, but thinking about the implications this new technology could have on creative careers. 

Adobe invited us to their offices in San Francisco for a conversation with a panel of leaders including Rachana Rele, Samantha Warren, Danielle Morimoto, and Laura Herman who shared how they and their teams are building and training AI models ethically while bringing innovation to the creative process.

F...

Episode 4 June 2024 1h, 1m and 4s


Ben Clymer: Hodinkee founder on watch design and creating a compelling content brand

Ben Clymer: Hodinkee founder on watch design and creating a compelling content brand

Get access to the full episode on our Substack: https://designbetterpodcast.com/p/ben-clymer

Aarron fell down a rabbit hole when the Apple Watch came out. He knew nothing about watches, their design history and the immense investment of human effort it’s taken to engineer accurate timepieces until he bought an Apple Watch. He loves wearing a watch, but notifications and tracking caused him to abandon it for something simpler and mechanical.

Anyone curious about watches will inevitably end up at Hodinkee.com, the premier publication about watches and the rich culture around them. Ho...

Episode 99 28 May 2024 14m and 42s

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