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Fat Mascara

Beauty journalists Jessica Matlin and Jennifer G. Sullivan have insider access to the industry and they’re not gatekeeping. On Wednesdays, they talk candidly about beauty news, cultural trends, and the latest products and treatments. On Fridays, they get their high-profile guests to open up about their relationship to Beauty Culture and the inner workings of the industry. Join the duo that pioneered the beauty podcast for a smart, funny, totally unfiltered discussion of all things beaut on Apple, Spotify, YouTube, or wherever you get your podcasts. Become a member at https://plus.acast.com/s/fatmascara. Hosted on Acast. See...

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Recent Episodes of Fat Mascara


How Technology Is Changing Beauty Culture with Dr. Alex Box

How Technology Is Changing Beauty Culture with Dr. Alex Box

Futurist, tech CEO, and makeup artist Alex Box, DDes, is working to make sure that as technology continues to evolve, our humanity and creativity isn’t lost. If you feel like social media, AI, and the metaverse are negatively affecting beauty standards, our self-esteem, and artist creativity, Alex offers an alternative: What if we all work together to change the systems? In this interview, she discusses “digital dignity,” how virtual spaces can inspire real-world connections, how to avoid echo chambers, and V-Metics, a virtual cosmetics software company she founded to help makeup artists transition their skills into the metaverse—and get...

Episode 12 July 2024 1h, 1m and 2s


Best of FM: Hairstylist Sally Hershberger

Best of FM: Hairstylist Sally Hershberger

In this confessional and juicy interview, hairstylist Sally Hershberger takes us back to SoCal in the late 1970s, and shares how she parlayed her rock-star-adjacent life into a full-on creative career, working in salons and then on set as one of the fashion world’s favorite hairstylists. She talks about giving Meg Ryan her famous shag haircut, creating products for John Frieda, launching several of her own hair lines, and how much the salon industry has changed in the last decade. Plus, did you know our very own Jessica Matlin once did Joan Jett’s makeup? That’s just one of the...

Episode 10 July 2024 41m and 44s


Making Perfume Sexy Again with Kilian Hennessy

Making Perfume Sexy Again with Kilian Hennessy

Kilian Hennessy, founder of Kilian Paris, talks about his famous last name, the history and semantics of fragrance, and the "potential consequences of making perfumed panties," in this interview, which originally aired in 2019. Plus, he explains why tuberose is better than Cheetos and what it’s like to be part of a big beauty conglomerate like Estée Lauder Companies.

Products mentioned in this episode: shopmy.us/collections/644723Episode recap with links: fatmascara.com/blog/kilian-hennessySponsor links & discount codes: fatmascara.com/sponsorsPrivate Facebook Group: Fat Mascara Raising a WandTikTok & Instagram: @fatmascara, @jenn_edit, @jessicamatlinSubmit a "Raise A Wand" product recommenda...

Episode 5 July 2024 32m and 5s


Ep. 538: Chat GPT’s Skincare Advice, Scented Emojis & The Week’s Beauty News

Ep. 538: Chat GPT’s Skincare Advice, Scented Emojis & The Week’s Beauty News

Jenn and Garrett discuss their recent travels, including Garrett's spa experience at a Dubai wellness hotel. Then they ask Chat GPT for skincare advice in real time (things do not go well). Plus: Trends from the new American Society of Plastic Surgeons survey; iRoma’s technology that could make movies (and emojis!) smellable in the near future; an in-shower facial; a sunscreen that won’t sting kids’ eyes; and a body gel that will help you cool off.

Products mentioned in this episode: shopmy.us/collections/641642Episode recap with links: fatmascara.com/blog/ep-538Sponsor links & discount codes: fatmascara.com/sponsors...

Episode 3 July 2024 1h, 1m and 28s


The Truth About Lash Serums, Blue Light & Eye Health with Dr. Nicky Shah

The Truth About Lash Serums, Blue Light & Eye Health with Dr. Nicky Shah

Is blue light bad for your eyes—or your skin? Which lash-growth serums work without harming your eyes? Is it okay to tightline? How do redness-relieving eye drops work, and can you get addicted to them? What’s the best way to remove eye makeup? Ophthalmologist Nicky Shah, MD, cofounder of You & Eye by Dr. Nicky, is going to answer all those questions and talk about lash extensions, permanent makeup, her favorite mascara, and more in this fun-fact-filled interview, which originally aired in 2022. 

Products mentioned in this episode: shopmy.us/collections/630395Episode recap with links: fatmascara.com/blog/dr-nicky-shahSponsor links...

Episode 28 June 2024 47m and 55s


Ep. 537: Makeup Flankers, Hyperosmia & The Week’s Beauty News

Ep. 537: Makeup Flankers, Hyperosmia & The Week’s Beauty News

Jess & Jenn share highlights from two beauty conferences, and then discuss the copywriting over at Vacation Inc.; the challenges of building a lasting fragrance brand; changes at Space NK; the beauty brands with Olympics tie-ins; new flanker products for Clinique Black Honey; the woman with hyperosmia (a super-sensitive olfactive ability) who can smell Parkinson’s disease; and more. Plus, let’s raise a wand to a twisted gourmand perfume and the excellent, long-lasting blushes from Haus Labs.

Products mentioned in this episode: shopmy.us/collections/627569Episode recap with links: fatmascara.com/blog/ep-537Sponsor links & discount codes: fatmascara.com/spons...

Episode 26 June 2024 40m and 7s


What It’s Really Like to Start a Beauty Brand, with Diarrha N'Diaye-Mbaye

What It’s Really Like to Start a Beauty Brand, with Diarrha N'Diaye-Mbaye

Ami Colé founder & CEO Diarrha N'Diaye-Mbaye went from social media manager (Temptu, L’Oréal) to product developer (Glossier) to starting a beauty brand for melanin-rich skin—and she’s refreshingly honest about what it took to get where she is. We discuss how her personal story is part of (but not the same thing as!) her brand; what it’s like to work with investors; the challenges BIPOC-owned beauty brands are facing; and how much fun it is for her to create gorgeous products that people love.

Products mentioned in this episode: shopmy.us/fatmascaraEpisode recap with links: fat...

Episode 21 June 2024 54m and 36s


Ep. 536: Everything Showers, the Lip-Nip Connection & The Week’s Beauty News

Ep. 536: Everything Showers, the Lip-Nip Connection & The Week’s Beauty News

Please welcome one more contributor to the Fat Mascara family: Julee Wilson is back and will be joining us more regularly! This week, she and Jenn discuss their shared dislike of rain shower heads; how to choose lip liner based on your nipple color (thanks, Glossier); the best products in the Fenty hair line; Beautyfor, a new organization helping to tackle the industry’s waste problem; sebaceous filaments; sexy perfumes for summer; and the disturbing truth about hair relaxers.

Products mentioned in this episode: shopmy.us/collections/613158Episode recap with links: fatmascara.com/blog/ep-536Sponsor links & discount cod...

Episode 19 June 2024 39m and 26s


Everything to Know About Permanent Makeup with Christine Hwang

Everything to Know About Permanent Makeup with Christine Hwang

Lip blushing, lip neutralization, restorative lip color, powder brows, microblading, how to remove permanent makeup—we’re going to learn about all of it with Christine Hwang (@newfacebychristine), a permanent makeup artist in New York City. She shares how to find a PMUA you can trust, how licensing works, the difference between regular tattoos and cosmetic tattoos, and so much more. If you’re even *thinking* about permanent or semi-permanent makeup, listen to this podcast first!

Products mentioned in this episode: shopmy.us/collections/603812Episode recap with links: fatmascara.com/blog/permanent-makeupSponsor links & discount codes: fatmascara.com/sponsorsPrivate Faceboo...

Episode 14 June 2024 55m and 49s


Ep. 535: Perfume Soirées, Sea Buckthorn Oil & The Week’s Beauty News

Ep. 535: Perfume Soirées, Sea Buckthorn Oil & The Week’s Beauty News

Jess shares the gossip from two hot fragrance events in New York City. Then, we discuss Epcot’s Norwegian perfumer in residence; Fenty Hair; Sarah Creal’s new line; Olaplex skincare (is it happening?); Tweezerman tools for pet owners; powdered shampoo; buttercup-yellow nail polish; and the delightful Bask sunscreen that will keep you protected even if you’re on a boat. Plus, in Science Corner: The surprising benefits of taking sea buckthorn oil supplements.

Products mentioned in this episode: shopmy.us/collections/599376Episode recap with links: fatmascara.com/blog/ep-535Sponsor links & discount codes: fatmascara.com/sponsorsPrivate Facebook Group: ...

Episode 12 June 2024 48m and 54s

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